The flywheel weight, in theory, gives a more road-like feel, but the thing is, at these weights, it’s all kinda wimpy to begin with. I’m 1.90m and despite being overweight, I’m not a cow on wheels, should I forget to buy a bike trainer or can I use it anyway? At least not to the price point noted. Also bought brand new cassette and chain. Below $700 CAD smart trainers seem to pickup an additional 5-10dB. None of which are really applicable to TrainerRoad for most people. Just normal tires and normal wheels. What about limit weight for bikers? Decisions. The slightly gravelly, juddery feel of the Neo magnets, and the way the flywheel operates make me prefer the road feel on the kickr, which is definitely smoother and “rolls” more like a real bike. My understanding is at this point if you’re in the US you can simply call Garmin support and they have dedicated trainer folks there handling it now. With the Direto/Direto X remember you’ll still need to pickup that cassette and tools if you don’t have it. link to youtube.com Where in PA? What is the benefit to have this “feature”. Let’s see in the next week’s how this unit is. Does that make the Direto X a better buy ? I managed to calibrate the trainer from Zwift and it is slightly better; I can now “spin” in the lowest gear 34-28 at 100 RPM for 200 watts. But certainly don’t shy away from a good deal on the Direto or Direto X – it’s solid for the right price. It’s turned out to be our longest episode to date! Will that be clever training US only, or EU as well what with MSRP etc in Europe being different. I have version 168 using the Elite Upgrado app. IT would be interesting too see what their process is. I can see how the max gradient of 6% and max wattage of 800 (which I still haven’t yet managed to hit, but am now within 100 watts when sprinting down “The Mall”) might be an issue for stronger riders, but for someone like me looking for a way to maintain and build fitness during the winter it has been probably the best £200 I have spent on cycling equipment. Is the 2t worth $120 more than a 2? The Kick Core is going to be 50% more at least. Great reviews as always. So you can just swap it out as you see fit. Neo 2T is not due to be avaliable in Ayustralia till Feb 2020 I’ve had no problems other than having to restart it a couple of times and some powermatch issues with my L stages and Trainerroad which TR said is a known issue. Because frankly, all of them are still really solid. The only reason is if someone wants to increase/decrease the height of the trainer. Sure, the Wahoo CORE has more inertia and thus slightly better road-feel. That includes a bunch of internal shifts that actually make it a trainer worth buying, though I haven’t tested one yet and don’t have one here to put through its paces. I’ll try and get to the bottom of it. Gravat: ANT+ FE-C and Bluetooth Smart FTMS on all 2019 smart trainers You should check out my videos. But in doing so, this more powerful Direto kills off the Drivo series trainers from Elite, which were Elite… I’m certain I could throw that in front of a semi-truck, and it’d probably be fine. Would just need the $100 through axel adaptor included above. Development behind the scenes continues slowly, but given the current lock-down in the Northern Italy region Elite is based, I wouldn’t expect anything anytime soon. Elite announced an update to their most popular smart bike trainer. While looking at accessories I spotted that spacer for 9/10 cassettes is missing. Hi Cypher, Some reviews are over 60 pages long when printed out, with hundreds of photos! – Flux smart (T2900) around 499€. It pretty much just started shipping really, and there is a new video of a faulty suito each day on youtube, each day, same with the comments here in the suito hands-on article. What about the software that comes with these trainers? I then changed to the Wahoo Kickr Snap. ... Elite Direto Smart Turbo... Elite Direto. I guess I wrote it wrong. Depending on the variables as noted above – but for $100 I could see going with the 2T just for the sake of newness. On my Tacx Genius, I suppose it makes downhill coasting a tiny bit more “real”, but I’d rather be without the extra noise. Independent data on reliability is scarce and there will be regional variations on levels of support too. Isn’t any good? Tacx appear to have stopped making them – at least it’s no longer on their website – but lots of UK retailers have them at £275 (about $350 / €320). I read some people is in their third unit and still with problems… very weird market, seems still inmature and makes me want to stick with the vortex smart until the suito is reliable, or the Suito X is released. But also like the notes I made about the CORE, I think these issues are largely behind us for any new purchases. Reliability and support are elements that I will pay a lot more attention to next time I am in the market for a trainer. No problem, here's the platform I use - you can too! I think at this point the early manufacturing teething issues (which were basically units made in July) are gone (or, in someone’s hands), and now things have been refined a bit. Wondering which one you would choose considering their cost/value/ and if there are some you feel simply are much better than the other and would be worth the slightly higher cost. And honestly if I would can get all my money back, I would just take the Bushido back. I’m also eyeing this. It is essentially the exact same unit…an appliance as expensive as the WAHOO KICKR should not be obsolete in under 2.5 years–how does one justify buy their products if there is a risk that it will become a very expensive paper weight. So now I am on refurbished unit number 2 and at least the problem is less prominent on the other two. Below are the most popular. If I haven’t sold the Bushido up in front I would have just kept it because it worked solid the last 5 years. STAC Zero: This made the cut last year, but I’m pretty sure it’s being phased out. That said, if general ramblings is any indication – I’d say that overwhelmingly the comments are actually negative towards Wahoo these last years in terms of QC/QA type stuff. Will there be a new KickR this year? Beware if you’re looking at an older unit (like 3+ years old), as many of these didn’t support thru-axle natively, or even at all. My fan is louder than the trainer. Specifically, look carefully at these four areas: A) Maximum incline Send them the video also (with the iPhone footage) because this is not ok for me. Thanks for the replies. Dear Ray, Of course, this brand is no mystery in Europe. Thank you for your answer. Guys please kindly share your thoughts. It’s a nice break from the day to day sports-tech talk, and I hope you get something out of it! Most of the time. And accuracy/ERG mode, etc…. Below is my second cancellation request to them (the run-on sentence was intentional): I attempted to cancel this order from you website but was unable to do so. Plus, you'll be more awesome. I run the Kickr’s power from my Vector 3s and I’m not bothered about the noise. I’ve also been considering the Elite Suito or the new Direto XR. It’s there. Thank you. Do you have the tools to install/change the cassette? Talented, sure, one of the Fab Four, but Wahoo is the Paul McCartney, yes? I am sure it is not a connection issue. I’ve found calibration is important for Zumo. Have you found Suito more responsive to gradient changes and therefore less lag than the Direto/DiretoX on the Titans Grove (and similar) sections in Zwift as think this is my final decider between Suito/Direto/DiretoX ! Im on the market to get a new trainer (curently using Jet Black Z1 and Zwift). And to be perfectly clear: They’re all about the same, except one. The workouts have been so great, I can seriously see myself continuing to do my workouts indoors on the trainer even when the weather is nicer outdoors! However, I don’t (yet) understand the Wahoo process. That is interesting statement :-). In 2020. It was replaced within 3 weeks by Garmin UK, although they did make me pay the shipping cost to get the faulty unit back to them (cost me £40).